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2º dia de GenCon: GSL, D&D Insider e vendas

Os caras do sempre excelente Critical Hits postaram uma pequena compilação do que chamou mais a atenção no 2° dia do maior encontro de RPG do mundo:

  • Scott Rouse is very confidant that the new version of the GSL will make third parties a lot happier, and they’re specifically using Clark Peterson (Necromancer Games/Orcus) as their bellweather of how friendly it is.
  • According to Randy Buehler, the game table part of D&DI won’t be out until 2009, but most of the other applications will be out in some form by the end of the year. Bartoneus and I were pretty blown away by the functionality of D&D Insider, especially the character generator. Even the Compendium, which looks pretty sad on its own, gains a few levels in conjunction with the rest of the software. (Expect our
  • Day 1 of GenCon: WotC sold out of Forgotten Realms Campaign Settings, Player’s Handbooks, and DM Screens. They replenished the first two on Day 2, but sold out of the Campaign Settings again within an hour of opening. We’ll have to check in on Day 3, the busiest day and the day people are most likely to buy, to see how their sales are going. I’d say that’s a pretty good indicator that GenCon folks, at least, are very into 4e.
  • WotC takes very, very good care of the press, whether you happen to be a blogger, podcaster, or print journalist. Our treatment has been top notch.

As you can tell, we’ve been spending a lot of time on WotC/D&D stuff, which obviously this is their big show, and hanging out with RPG Bloggers only compounds our desire to play D&D. But we do plan on hitting a few other things tomorrow.

Tomara que toda essa animação do Scott Rouse sobre a GSL se converta em uma licensa usável. Até porque, por mais legal que o Clark Peterson da Necro seja, ele sempre foi um cara muito disposto a mudar para a 4ª edição, alias foi o primeiro a anunciar produtos para a nova edição, voltando atrás justamente pela aberração que era a GSL.

O game table do D&D Insider não me parece muito legal, sei lá, não vejo muito sentido em jogar sem meus amigos por perto, mas deve ser algo genial para quem esta impossibilitado pela distância ou incompatibilidade de tempo. Já o gerador de personagens deve ser bacana, ainda que o prospecto da Wizards nessa área seja terrível…

E as vendas, caramba! Esgotaram o básico de Forgotten Realms duas vezes, e os Player’s Handbooks logo no primeiro dia! O povo realmente caiu de cabeça na 4ª edição por lá, mas isso já era meio esperado dos jogadores hardcore. De qualquer forma é um belo indicativo que a 4ª edição está se sustentato muito bem em vendas apesar dos tropeços em outras áreas.

A Wizards vai revisar a GSL e SRD da 4ª edição!

Finalmente a Wizards decidiu voltar atrás e revisar a GSL e SRD do D&D 4ª edição, que até aqui se provaram fracassos retumbantes, sendo rejeitadas por uma série de editoras, e perdendo boa parte de sua utilidade e legitimidade. Segundo a breve mensagem do site da WotC:

Wizards of the Coast announces a forthcoming revision to the Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition Game System License (GSL) and System Reference Document (SRD).

“We recognize the important role third party publishing support plays in the success of the 4th Edition of Dungeons & Dragons. We have listened to the community and our valued colleagues and have taken their concerns and recommendations to heart. Our commitment to the health of the industry and hobby gaming lifestyle is reflected in the revisions to the Game System License.”
–Linae Foster D&D Licensing Manager

While the delivery date is not yet firmly established, the revised documents will be available in the very near future.

The new fan site policy, to be made public at a later date, will be posted upon completion.

Parece mesmo que os esforços do Clark da Necromancer Games, provavelmente aliados a mais um monte de fatores, conseguiram mudar algumas opiniões dentro da Wizards. Segundo a Linae Foster em um tópico da Enworld, eles estavam tentando liberar as versões revisadas ainda na Gen Con esta semana, mas não rolou.

O lance agora é esperar sem muito otimismo e expectativas, embora a iniciativa da revisão seja por si só reconhecimento do vacilo inicial, e claro, da importância de ter outras editoras reconhecidas produzindo material para seu sistema. Vai ser interessante ver se já é tarde demais para que as outras editoras voltem atrás em seus planos de publicação para o segundo semestre de 2008 e 2009, e claro, se essa revisão será atraente o suficiente para fazer alguém mudar de idéia.

E a versão beta do Pathfinder será liberada de graça em PDF dia 14, ou seja em pouco mais de 48 horas. Agosto está agitado!

Até a Necromancer Games está fora da 4ª edição…

Ok, isto está ficando ridículo. Até a Necromancer Games, maior e mais otimista defensora da 4ª edição dentre as editoras, decidiu voltar atrás em seus planos de publicação para a nova edição do Dungeons & Dragons em um post do dono da editora, Clark Peterson:

Sorry I have been so quiet. Things are very up in the air right now. And no one is more aggravated with that than me. It has been about a year now that we havent put out a product. The market for 3.5 is all but dried up. Maybe Pathfinder’s release will help, but that is still some time off. I intend to support Pathfinder when it is finalized. I trust and respect the people at Paizo. They are gamers and brilliant designers. They love D&D and have its best interests at heart. Luckily, when Wizards first took over D&D, they put a visionary gentleman named Ryan Dancey at the helm and he was able to convince the powers that be to release D&D 3E as an Open Game, thus essentially assuring that the game we all love could exist in that iteration forever. 3E and the d20 movement was a great time for gaming. A true renaissance, in my view.

Now we have the GSL. Right now, in my view, the GSL needs some major reworking or clarification to be usable. The bottom line, in my view, is that the GSL is a total unmitigated failure. And that is a shame. I have been one of the biggest vocal proponents of Wizards and I love Scott and Linae. I still do, big time. I am hopefull that we can find a way to change or clarify some of the issues with the license so that we can use it and create 4E products. You know that philsophically I believe in supporting the current version of D&D.

Trust me that I am working hard to try to resolve the GSL issues so that we can go forward. I’m optimistic that some changes can be made. Will they be enough to make the GSL usable? I sure hope so.

Please dont take this post as bashing Wizards. I am not doing that. I support Wizards. And if there is one thing that is clear from this process it is that, while I would have done it differently, they have always been great about listening to our comments and revising things based on our comments. That is a credit to them, for sure. And Scott and Linae continue to be amazing and, in my view, working hard to make the license usable.

So what will Necro do? I’ll try to break things down by relevant topic:

So are you doing 4E? Well, right now I dont see 4E products in the immediate future from Necro without some changes or clarifications to the license. My hope is that I will be able to get what I need so that we can do 4E products. But as of today we have not adopted the GSL, we have not sent in our card accepting the license. And, unless there are changes or significant clarification, we won’t be adopting it.

Necro and Paizo? I still very much want to work with them and they very much want to work with me. The problem is the GSL. Necro will definately be supporting Pathfinder when it comes out. If the GSL issues are resolved, Necro and Paizo will be bringing you some amazing products that we already have lined up and in the hopper. Seriously, there are several awesome products literally ready to go just awaiting the fixing of the issues with the GSL.

Tegel Manor? Right now, in my view, in addition to the problems the GSL has in general, it has specific additonal problems for a product like Tegel. I see the risk to Judges Guild, which wants to continue to make OGL versions of JG content and distribute our old Necro/JG products as well, as being too great to jeopardize permenantly, which the GSL does. But, you may say, Judges Guild doesnt have to adopt the GSL! That is true, but the GSL has some problematic provisions that make that partnership very difficult and uncertain.

What about that free adventure, Winter’s Tomb? Can’t you just do a free adventure? Its not happening. There is no way to “just do a free adventure” without adopting the GSL, which we have not yet done and wont do in its current incarnation.

So now will you release all that stuff for 3E? Doubtful. The market for 3E is not there. I expect Pathfinder to revive it, but that isnt going to be a full, public supportable system for some time. 3E remains viable for many publishers. But our plan is to up the production value on our products, which means they cost alot more to make, which means our margins are so small, that the current 3E market makes those products not feasible for lots of reasons I wont get into. I know there are many fans who say they will buy that stuff and would love to have it. Well, in a perfect world, we’d love to deliver it. But this isnt a perfect world and fan demand isnt the only factor–there are distributors and retailers and others who are not so excited about generic 3E now that 4E is out.

So bottom line it for me–what are you going to do? We are working with Wizards to clarify and/or change the license. If that works, we will release 4E material. If there are no changes, I dont see us adopting the GSL (absent some significant official clarification of terms of the GSL). We will support Pathfinder. But we will not just release OGL content from this point forward until Pathfinder is viable and we can support it.

How likely do you think it is that there will be changes? I am very hopeful that some significant changes or clarifications can be accomplished with the GSL.

I hope this helps answer some questions. Sorry for the delay. I havent had anything concrete to report. Heck, I still dont. But I figured I owed everyone an update.

Necro isnt going anywhere. We are trying to work to be able to get a usable GSL or other arrangment with Wizards to bring you the awesome 4E content we have planned. If that wont work, you will see us fully supporting Pathfinder. Our time off before we start cranking out new products may just be a bit longer than planned

Acho que podemos dizer que a Necromancer foi a editora que mais arduamente insistiu com a 4ª edição, mantendo uma aparente proximidade da Wizards e seus funcionários, sempre na defesa da nova edição e de suas qualidades. Mas a real, que o Clark coloca aqui, é que a GSL é pesada demais até para a empresa mais decidida a lançar produtos da 4ª edição. E o mercado da 3ª edição está desaquecido e em decadência veloz lá fora, o que já foi sentido a um tempo nas vendas de livros em formato PDF por uma série de editoras. Então a Necro (e a maioria das editoras) ficou em um beco sem saída, uma situação complicada onde, a partir da qual alguns decidiram investir em suas próprias linhas, e outros em lançarem produtos para a nova edição sem seguir as duras restrições da GSL.

Mas o mais bizarro de tudo é a solução encontrada pelo Clark e sua Necromancer Games: ele não vai investir em um OGL próprio, se voltar para a 3ª edição ou mesmo lançar produtos para a 4ª edição sem usar a GSL. Segundo o post acima, a saída encontrada pela Necro é a de trabalhar junto da Wizards (!) para clarificar ou modificar a Game System License (!!). E se isso falhar, eles vão apoiar o Pathfinder. Eu não sei mesmo se ele vai conseguir mudar alguma coisa na GSL, ou se tem essa proximidade toda com os funcionários da Wizards, a ponto de fazê-los rever algo que obviamente deu muito errado. Mas o fato é que a cada dia a GSL perde mais e mais sua legitimidade, sendo burlada ou ignorada por completo pelas maiores editoras. Eu até já havia questionado a possibilidade dessa reformulação da GSL depois que a Green Ronin abandonou o barco da 4ª edição, e eu acho que depois de Outubro, quando os primeiros produtos usando a licença poderão serem vendidos, teremos a visão real do estrago causado pela rejeição a Game System License. E talvez ai a Wizards se convença que a GSL foi seu maior fracasso em muito tempo.

Green Ronin fora da GSL (pelo menos por enquanto)

Já são tantas as notícias de editoras que pretendem seguir sem a GSL (Game System Licence), que estou pensando em só postar agora como novidade quando alguém anunciar que realmente vai usar a GSL… Agora foi a vez foi do Chris Pramas e sua turma, que fizeram um anúncio oficial no site da Green Ronin:

Green Ronin and Fourth Edition D&D

I know a lot of fans have been waiting to find out if Green Ronin is going to support 4th Edition Dungeons & Dragons and it’s a fair question. Green Ronin’s second product ever was Death in Freeport, an adventure for 3rd Edition that debuted the same day as the Player’s Handbook almost eight years ago. We went on to do quite a lot of 3E support, ending only a couple of months back with the d20 Freeport Companion. Now Wizards of the Coast is terminating the d20 license and offering a different way to support the new edition of D&D. It’s called the Game System License and we waited from August of last year until June of this year to see it. We’ve spent the last few weeks reviewing the license and discussing it internally and we have come to a consensus.

Green Ronin will not be signing the Game System License (GSL) at this time.

We plan to do one product in support of 4E: the Green Ronin Character Record Folio. This will be an update of the d20 System Character Record Folio and we’ll be publishing it under the Open Game License (OGL).

Other than that we’ll be giving our full attention to our own game lines: Mutants & Masterminds, A Song of Ice and Fire Roleplaying, True20 Adventure Roleplaying, and Freeport: The City of Adventure.

We had hoped to include 4E support in our plans, but the terms of the GSL are too one-sided as they stand. We certainly do not blame Wizards of the Coast for wanting to defend their intellectual property and take more control over the type of support products D&D receives. We do not, however, feel that this license treats third party publishers as valued partners. Under its terms WotC could frivolously sue a signatory for supposed violations of the GSL, lose the actual court case, and still ruin the winning company because the license specifies that the signatory has to pay WotC’s legal fees. Also, the GSL can be changed at any time and WotC is not legally required to so much as inform its licensees.

Let me be clear in stating that I don’t think that the people in charge of WotC currently are just waiting to attack companies with frivolous lawsuits. Once you sign the GSL though, you open yourself up to that at any point in the future. Who knows when new people will take over the D&D brand and who can say what their vision will be? Who knows when the political winds at WotC will change again and things will get even more restrictive? We do not want to operate under such a cloud moving ahead so that’s why we won’t be signing the GSL.

This means the Green Ronin Character Record Folio is the only 4E compatible product you’ll be seeing from us this year and likely for 2009 as well. Perhaps WotC will revise the GSL in the positive way, but we cannot build our business on maybes. We know this will disappoint those of our fans who have embraced 4E and we’re sorry about that. We have to make the best business decision for Green Ronin’s future and right now this is it.

Thank you for your continued support.

Chris Pramas
President
Green Ronin Publishing

Eu realmente não esperava que eles fossem ignorar totalmente a GSL. Pelo que o Pramas escrevia em seu blog, achei que iam tentar dividir os ovos, colocar algumas coisas na 4ª edição através da GSL, como livros de NPC’s e aventuras, e focar o resto no que é garantido e sólido, ou seja, suas linhas estabelecidas. Pelo jeito decidiram só pela segunda parte.

Mesmo esta decisão mais conservadora pode ter como reflexo improvável algum tipo de mudança – afinal à medida que mais editoras decidem ignorar a possibilidade da GSL, ela acaba perdendo a sua legitimidade, e a Green Ronin além de ser uma favorita aqui no Área Cinza, é uma das maiores editoras que publicam material d20 além da Wizards. Pelo jeito a saga da GSL está longe de acabar…